๐๐ป๐A Podcast Marketing Deep Listening Practice
To be a better podcast marketer, you have to listen like one
Hi hello! Wil back with more Podcast Marketing Magic! This week, Iโm back talking about how to listen to podcasts like a marketer. Today, I want to focus on one specific deep listening study, breaking down one trailer and dissecting what makes it work: the trailer for This Is Propaganda, a podcast all about marketing, propaganda, and why the two are more deeply intertwined than you might think.
If you like this format and want more listening studies, let us know! Weโre planning our next quarterโs edcal, so now is a great time.
But for now, itโs trailer time! Want a 101 on what makes a good podcast trailer? Weโve got you. Now letโs make some propaganda.
โฑ๏ธKeep it short and sweet
This Is Propagandaโs trailer is 60 seconds long โ and that is the maximum I recommend having your trailers! I always like having a 30 and 60 second trailer to send to other podcasts who might want to do a promo swap with my podcasts. But as a listener, Iโm biased towards 60 seconds, and this trailer is a great example of why.
60 seconds keeps you in check to make sure youโre not wasting your listenerโs time, but it also gives you a lot of breathing room to dive into what your podcast is about and tell an entire story. Every second of this trailer is used for maximum impact. My time absolutely does not feel wasted.
๐Tell a story
This trailer, nostably, does not start with a voice telling you what their podcast is about. Instead, it starts with a mysterious narrator telling you a completely different story: a story about a beer. Itโs not until this subject has been exposited that you get the connection to the podcast itself, displayed as interference or a twist. Thereโs an ominous high tone and then static before a radio tune into a quote: โAll propaganda is a story.โ
This is when the narrative opens up. Itโs not just about this American beer with horse iconography (love how it lets the listener infer the connection) โ itโs about America itself, and about propaganda. Now, the twist fully reveals itself: โThis perception in itself was born from a lie โ a lie that began a century ago,โ followed by more clips of how we can see this lie play out all around us.
The trailer itself has a twist! This is part of what makes movie trailers work. They donโt just give you the whole plot of the story theyโre telling. They give you the start of the characterโs journey and when things start to get unexpected โ steps 1 and 3 of Dan Harmonโs story circle, for example.
โ๏ธShow off your editing chops
Another part of what makes each second count in this trailer is the editing. When I say to closely edit your trailers, I donโt necessarily mean โno silences, everything at breakneck speed so you can fit in as much โจcontentโจ as humanly possible.โ Instead, what I mean is to make sure your pacing fits the format โ and the script.
This Is Propagandaโs trailer starts with a low bass, and then some narration that takes its time. Itโs building narrative suspense in its pacing, slowly leading the listener in to the story thatโs about to unfold. But then, right as things start going awry (as mentioned up above ๐๐ป), thatโs when the editing starts moving along the clips and narration faster, adding to that momentum and suspense. The editing keeps you on the edge of your seat until you finally land back at comfortable pacing โ just in time for them to drop the title of their podcast once more.
๐ถMake your music count
The music for this trailer is sweeping and cinematic, and for the story being told here, it works. Youโre being lead through a story of lies, fascism, and mass manipulation, being swarmed with clips from different perspectives. The tone is serious and morbidly fascinating, which means using a huge score is a great fit. Itโs captivating, and it plays off the editing and content perfectly.
Music is important in trailers for some really key reasons that might feel obvious, but arenโt typically discussed in full:
Music has the ability to set tone, energy, and pacing without taking any additional time; it lies underneath the other audio, working simultaneously alongside the script and editing
Music helps make sure your trailer sounds distinct from any other audio in context, which is especially helpful during promo swaps
Music gives something for peopleโs brain to latch onto as they process the clips, narration, and other information in the trailer, acting almost like a glue holding everything together and making it cohesive
๐คMake it sound like the podcast itself
The cherry on top of all of this? That story about the beer wasnโt just made for this trailer. It was taken right from an episode.
Listen to the start of the trailer again. Surprising, right? In this context, it sounds like it was made specifically for a trailer โ but when you listen to the episode, it feels just as natural. It falls about a third into their third episode, not even at the beginning! And it works. It makes sense. Itโs perfect in both contexts.
Not only does this mean that the team could double dip, pulling a clip to structure their trailer without having to record that specific section again โ it also means that the trailer actually sounds like the podcast. It means they are giving an ad (propaganda) for their podcast that isnโt misleading. You will hear a podcast that sounds just like the trailer, and fulfills the promise the trailer gives to the listener.
๐ง From The Desk of Tink
ReThinking with Adam Grant is a fascinating podcast on thinking about thinking. Organizational psychologist Adam Grant interviews great thinkers across tons of different disciplines to get into the nitty gritty of how their brains work โ and how you can get your brain to maybe work more like theirs. Itโs another must-listen from the TED Audio Collective.
Thank you for reading! Next week, Shreya returns with more magic! โจ
โ Wil ๐ฆ